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lenny
02-13-2015, 05:17 PM
With these cold temp and new snows, trails are very durable and in great condition. Our snowmobile club is the Superior Snowmobile club and we have been grooming solid now. I personally along with 5 others groom (trail 13) from Greenland half way to Bergland so it gets 6 nights of Grooming. We lost one guy last week and another is heading to Florida for the remainder of the season so we are working on switching guys around to keep the 13 loop trail in good condition. Some of us are even grooming multiple times a week. Heavy traffic on weekend still destroys the trail but not the fault of lack of grooming. Last night I left to groom at 8pm and returned at 3 am. Did not see a single sled on return trip and was told this AM it was set up like concrete and flat as a board for the most part. A good thing to consider when traveling heavily traveled trail is try an ride those in the AM and come back a different way if possible.

goofy600
02-13-2015, 05:51 PM
Always good advice ride early and find the less traveled trails when busy. Hope you can find some extra help and keep up the good work will be hitting the area soon.

fusion900ryder
02-13-2015, 06:24 PM
Thanks Lenny.

byr 13
02-13-2015, 06:28 PM
thanks lenny

dwz
02-13-2015, 10:42 PM
I was on 13 yesterday and it was outstanding, thanks Lenny and the crew!

800etec
02-13-2015, 11:17 PM
Thanks for keeping the trails up and the update Lenny!

mspease
02-13-2015, 11:36 PM
Thanks Lenny! I'm coming up Sunday, what night does it not get groomed?

lenny
02-14-2015, 02:14 AM
Thanks Lenny! I'm coming up Sunday, what night does it not get groomed?

Mark,

Wed is the only night it does not get groomed. I was supposed to train a guy this last Thurs but he canceled. He it still interested in grooming so if it pans out he will take Wed.

aesynthetics
02-14-2015, 02:44 AM
Does anyone need to be relieved this coming week? Tues, Wed, nights?

mspease
02-14-2015, 09:07 AM
Mark,

Wed is the only night it does not get groomed. I was supposed to train a guy this last Thurs but he canceled. He it still interested in grooming so if it pans out he will take Wed.

Perfect! I will be on it Monday and Wednesday. Thanks for the grooming and training. 6 out of 7 nights is very good! I still haven't been able to groom down here and I miss it. :(

lenny
02-14-2015, 09:31 AM
Does anyone need to be relieved this coming week? Tues, Wed, nights?

Ed, not that I am aware of at the moment, I do appreciate it very much.

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Perfect! I will be on it Monday and Wednesday. Thanks for the grooming and training. 6 out of 7 nights is very good! I still haven't been able to groom down here and I miss it. :(

oh no Mark, I groom it Thurs and Sun so if you ride it Mon and it's bad, be sure and forget to mention that part :eek:

ranlam
02-14-2015, 09:45 AM
I been hearing good things about 13 and 12 loop. I been grooming 12 for north country club we have been short a machine so it was double time for me. Porkies ski hill to greenland and 101 on the way back is 106 miles! Takes me 12.5 hours! Piston bully is smooth rider though so i dont mind it one bit. It will all b over in a month or so, so get out and enjoy the fruits of our labors!

mspease
02-14-2015, 12:26 PM
I must say 12 up to Onto was as good as we've seen in a long time this year. Appreciate the extra effort ranlam, that's a long time to be in a groomer, even with some breaks.

Woodtic
02-14-2015, 01:40 PM
If Seņor Lenny is giving the training . Do I need to bring up more welding rod?

ranlam
02-15-2015, 11:06 AM
Thanks mspease. We got our other machine back so im back on short runs now. Conditions are excellent just cold.

Thanks Lenny and all other groomers for your hard work.

mspease
02-16-2015, 07:30 PM
Sitting in Big Bay right now. Lenny's trail was awesome today! Great job. 😄

dogflog
02-23-2015, 10:32 AM
Hi Lenny,

Do you plan to continue regular grooming through early March? I'm trying to put together another trip for early next week, staying in Greenland.

Also, where do you go for breakfast now that the restaurant in Mass City is closed?

Happy Trails. Glenn

mspease
02-23-2015, 10:36 AM
The Adventure Motel 1 block west of the gas station in Mass has great breakfasts! Closed on Monday's though.

dogflog
02-24-2015, 11:12 AM
mspease

From your post, it appears that you rode the L'anse/Big Bay trail. I haven't been on that in a few years, but want to ride it next Monday or Tuesday. My plan was to go Rousseau/Sturgeon River Gorge/L'anse/Big Bay. Any tips on the route from Greenland? Do you know if Arvon Rd to Huron Bay is still OK?

Thanks in advance for any info. Happy Trails, Glenn

attack_06
02-24-2015, 11:23 AM
why am i constantly seeing bad reports on 13 rockland to bergland whats the problem up there

boomding
02-25-2015, 07:24 AM
I rode 13 from Greenland to Bergland this past Friday (and two weeks ago as well), and both times it was money. Whatever issues you're reading about seem to have been resolved--it's a great ride!

mspease
02-25-2015, 08:46 AM
mspease

From your post, it appears that you rode the L'anse/Big Bay trail. I haven't been on that in a few years, but want to ride it next Monday or Tuesday. My plan was to go Rousseau/Sturgeon River Gorge/L'anse/Big Bay. Any tips on the route from Greenland? Do you know if Arvon Rd to Huron Bay is still OK?

Thanks in advance for any info. Happy Trails, Glenn

dogflog,

Sorry, I just saw this. I'm in Indianapolis on business. I did the same route from Bergland to avoid the rail grade on trail 8. Trails were great. I'm not sure on Arvon Road, never took that. Have a great time and let us know how it goes.

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I rode 13 from Greenland to Bergland this past Friday (and two weeks ago as well), and both times it was money. Whatever issues you're reading about seem to have been resolved--it's a great ride!

Agreed!! :)

lenny
02-25-2015, 09:40 AM
why am i constantly seeing bad reports on 13 rockland to bergland whats the problem up there


if one guy rode it sat afternoon and it was getting rough that's what he is going post. People rarely post good condition unless asked or they post their weekend experience. I personally look at the totality of the trail for the week as every day is important and set us up for the next day. Trail 13 from Greenland through Rockland toward bergland is what we consider a high traffic trail. It's a nice wooded trail with varying terrain which makes it desirable, even some trail along power lines. It's highly traveled like the 3 railroad grade but not quite as much. Still the trail often cannot support the quantity of sleds just like rail grade 3. Trail 3 rail grade by Twin Lakes to Toivola gets rough. Does it get rough because we do not groom it or because the traffic is heavy? The answer is the traffic is heavy. Most of us would rather ride a wooded twisty sort of trail compared to a grade, not all but most. This year we have been lucky and have a 3rd groomer machine compared to last year having only 2 and a major breakdown on one machine.

I had some renters last week driving 9 hrs to may place and she heard on FB that trails were not good so she called me and asked. I told her 2 weeks prior we hadn't got much snow in 10 days and trails had been getting rough because of recycled snow that doesn't not set well but we had now been getting snow and the trails were a 8 out of 10 or very good condition.

Bottom line, trails vary so don't believe that what was reported today will be the same tomorrow.

attack_06
02-25-2015, 10:03 AM
Thanks Lenny will be thru there at some point this weekend haven't ben this season yet because it gets so pounded

harvest1121
02-25-2015, 10:24 AM
I did ride 13 on Saturday and Monday it was great. Met some people at Pats and they were not going to take 13 because of what they read. I rode with them to Bergland and the trail was great.

dogflog
02-25-2015, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the detailed analysis, Lenny. You're a pro. As I get older, I appreciate the grooming even more. It allows me to focus and appreciate the beauty of the surroundings, rather than negotiating bumps. I've also learned to be ready to vary my planned route for the day based on conditions. I'd much rather ride a remote smooth loop trail than "race" to a distant location on the most direct route. Avoiding weekend riding is a huge advantage, if you can do it. Snowmobiling is more about riding and scenery than it is achieving a destination.

Happy Trails All, Glenn

lenny
02-25-2015, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the detailed analysis, Lenny. You're a pro. As I get older, I appreciate the grooming even more. It allows me to focus and appreciate the beauty of the surroundings, rather than negotiating bumps. I've also learned to be ready to vary my planned route for the day based on conditions. I'd much rather ride a remote smooth loop trail than "race" to a distant location on the most direct route. Avoiding weekend riding is a huge advantage, if you can do it. Snowmobiling is more about riding and scenery than it is achieving a destination.

Happy Trails All, Glenn

I agree brother, When I ride with my wife we go 40 and are just happy to enjoy the outdoors. I do understand the younger riders and have no problem with them riding aggressively, I just stay out of the way. It's funny how we change as we get older!

lenny
02-25-2015, 07:00 PM
looks like I spoke a little to soon. I just get back from riding 13 half way to Bergland and notice the trail is rougher than I expected. On the way back I stop in the groomer shed and check the log book and find that I was the last one to groom it last Sun,,,,WTH. I never got a call or was told it hadn't been groomed and man does it tick me off. This is the friggen problem you have when you have a volunteer group. Guys come and go as they please because the can. Now I have to alter my evening and go groom till 3am, and work tomorrow still than go again on my reg route Thurs. You guys have every right to be pissed because our guys are dropping the ball and I'm not afraid to tell the world about it. Hopefully I can get fired over it,,,that would be a load off my back. Oh wait,,,I cannot get fired, I've never been hired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

snocrazy
02-25-2015, 07:46 PM
go get em lenny! awesome.

kraven700
02-25-2015, 08:06 PM
looks like I spoke a little to soon. I just get back from riding 13 half way to Bergland and notice the trail is rougher than I expected. On the way back I stop in the groomer shed and check the log book and find that I was the last one to groom it last Sun,,,,WTH. I never got a call or was told it hadn't been groomed and man does it tick me off. This is the friggen problem you have when you have a volunteer group. Guys come and go as they please because the can. Now I have to alter my evening and go groom till 3am, and work tomorrow still than go again on my reg route Thurs. You guys have every right to be pissed because our guys are dropping the ball and I'm not afraid to tell the world about it. Hopefully I can get fired over it,,,that would be a load off my back. Oh wait,,,I cannot get fired, I've never been hired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS for your efforts !!!!!

ranlam
02-25-2015, 10:08 PM
Good help is hard to find. Us over at north country have been lucky with a dedicated group of guys. Lenny if i was little closer i would lend a hand, being that grooming is all i wanna do lately.

lenny
02-26-2015, 02:51 AM
Good help is hard to find. Us over at north country have been lucky with a dedicated group of guys. Lenny if i was little closer i would lend a hand, being that grooming is all i wanna do lately.


thanks guys, much appredciated!!!! Ranlam, are you guys volunteer also ?

ranlam
02-26-2015, 09:51 AM
yep.

attack_06
03-15-2015, 12:23 AM
Lenny what's the off trail conditions looking like from you on up to twin lakes hopefully this cold and snow comes back for a couple weeks to hold what's still there

lenny
03-15-2015, 09:09 AM
if it stopped melting now and snowed some we could be good but honestly, I havn't even been out and better yet even thought of the snow. There is still snow in the woods and logging roads and one could ride but we need cold