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    Default Recreational Marijuana

    Well after a hard days ride. I guess I can indulge in some fine grade Marijuana legally now.

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    UhO here we go. If we're lucky it will be like a Sea & Snow thread from day's gone by. LOL! - Mezz

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezz View Post
    UhO here we go. If we're lucky it will be like a Sea & Snow thread from day's gone by. LOL! - Mezz
    Thank you, Thank you very little. LOL I have never rocked the boat on this forum or been involved in controversy that goes on and on. But this one I cannot resist. My woman has a cousin that owns a property just down the road from Rousseau Bar. So, I can legally get as high as I want. My strain of choice will of course be hybrid 80/20. That way I can enjoy the sativa for cerebral stimulation during cooking and Indica for couch lock when dishes need to be done.

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    Hold on, let me get some popcorn before it hits the fan!

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    Are there recreational sales yet in the UP? Last I checked it was thought probably March before any one would be fully licensed and up and running (in Da UP) Ann Arbor got 2 licensed retailers, believe open date of Dec. 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary_in_neenah View Post
    Hold on, let me get some popcorn before it hits the fan!
    Like the sign at Hoppys in Kenton sez, " Whos stupid enough to throw it at a fan anyway "

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireworks View Post
    Thank you, Thank you very little. LOL I have never rocked the boat on this forum or been involved in controversy that goes on and on. But this one I cannot resist. My woman has a cousin that owns a property just down the road from Rousseau Bar. So, I can legally get as high as I want. My strain of choice will of course be hybrid 80/20. That way I can enjoy the sativa for cerebral stimulation during cooking and Indica for couch lock when dishes need to be done.
    Well I don't think too many will get bent out of shape about the recreational marijuana, but I'm POSITIVE some are going to take offense to you referring to your woman as "my woman." lol!

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    I will choose to stay south and ride with the rest of the drunks in Wisco.....i'd hate to get stuck behind a MI pothead at a stop sign waiting for a green light.

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    You guys wanna talk about the best pipe now, errrr???

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    will deff be nice to only have to drive 5 hrs not 17 for my stash . may even start ridding up there again now

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    btw any places looking to open in the up this winter ? foolish to miss the sled season .I assume it will be like other states and take time to be sellibg more than leaf and prerolls though . but somthing is better than nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireworks View Post
    Well after a hard days ride. I guess I can indulge in some fine grade Marijuana legally now.
    Nice, I assume just following the law as most users do.

    Guys, look at it like drinking and driving; you do it and stay put til your sober again.

    Was in CA and NV ten or more times since legalization and you cannot tell the laws changed when driving the streets (traffic flow etc.).
    Advertising, storefronts and now the proliferation of lounges are hard to miss though; if you want it, enjoy it..cool. Just follow the rules and we are all safe.

    I like the law changes, keeps taxes lower by emptying out the jails and earns taxes by the sales.

    The world is changing fast, much of it bad and sad...this not that big of a deal.

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    I don't think there are any places in the UP that are selling it. Myself, I'm just not into it and don't indulge, not even a speck, but I don't have a problem with it.
    At the same time people here are growing it like mad. A friend of mine grew the legal limit this summer and even though it was a little crazy* for him he has about $20,000 worth of serious pot.

    *he said that when he sealed off the room to cure it, or whatever you do, the smell got everywhere and even after he washed down the walls and floors of his house, threw out all his fabric furniture and cleaned it again it still smelled like a he spilled skunk spray all over.

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    The local units have the right to opt in or opt out. Be sure to check your local regulations.

    You may be able to legally purchase and use, however you cannot operate vehicles if you are under the influence.

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    Even our main employees are drug tested here on the Farm. If its a positive they are gone. So let em smoke and look for a nice minimum wage job.

    We just had a City worker fired for using CDB Oil, "so he claims" by by Pension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeperguy View Post
    Are there recreational sales yet in the UP? Last I checked it was thought probably March before any one would be fully licensed and up and running (in Da UP) Ann Arbor got 2 licensed retailers, believe open date of Dec. 1
    If you want it bad enough its only a hop ,skip and a jump to Ann Arbor from the UP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtrack View Post
    Even our main employees are drug tested here on the Farm. If its a positive they are gone. So let em smoke and look for a nice minimum wage job.

    We just had a City worker fired for using CDB Oil, "so he claims" by by Pension.
    Interesting discussion for sure.
    As time goes forward, THC testing for non-safety related positions is disappearing.

    Caesars entertainment (think Casinos) removed THC testing from pre-employment screening for non-transportation positions.
    Why?
    1. THC of some sort is legal in about 45 States (yes, CBD can come up in THC testing also).
    2. Lawsuits have begun by candidates who are turned away from employment if screened out due to THC when used legally.
    3.THERE ARE NO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK! Labor pools have shrunk and younger generational expectations have evolved.

    Anyway, I can tell you there is serious talk in WI about eliminating THC testing for non-safety related position, not just front-line positions either.

    With MI and Il coming on strong (even WI allows CBD usage now) people in WI will have close access.

    FYI; this discussion is about "pre-employment" screening and does not eliminate Managements ability to test for "under the influence" behavior nor the responsibility for employees to come to work sober.

    Six years ago I would have said I do not support these changes but today we can't fill 40k jobs that enjoy another 20k in benefits nor want to be exposed to potential lawsuits. I now support the changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Fast or Go Home View Post
    The local units have the right to opt in or opt out. Be sure to check your local regulations.

    You may be able to legally purchase and use, however you cannot operate vehicles if you are under the influence.

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    good luck with that! I have only one word.... WONDERFUL

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    Default This popcorn is salty!

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    I guess that was then....and this is now.

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    If you are going to partake, make sure you are fully advised on what kind of goggles to wear.

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    The Freep newspaper had a long article outlining pot etiquette. The # 1 tip was - Don't bogart the joint.

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    Where is everyone getting their tweed now, if it isn't available to the public yet?
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    Lol.....I’m pretty sure there was a plenty of weed floating around for many, many snowmobile season prior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwaterHoosier View Post
    Where is everyone getting there tweed now, if it isn't available to the public yet?
    From someone who has a medical card and makes a purchase for you or from an individual grower of the good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireworks View Post
    Thank you, Thank you very little. LOL I have never rocked the boat on this forum or been involved in controversy that goes on and on. But this one I cannot resist. My woman has a cousin that owns a property just down the road from Rousseau Bar. So, I can legally get as high as I want. My strain of choice will of course be hybrid 80/20. That way I can enjoy the sativa for cerebral stimulation during cooking and Indica for couch lock when dishes need to be done.
    Don't you need a dozen donuts, too?

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    Krupps Fresh Strudels

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtrack View Post
    Even our main employees are drug tested here on the Farm. If its a positive they are gone. So let em smoke and look for a nice minimum wage job.

    We just had a City worker fired for using CDB Oil, "so he claims" by by Pension.
    good i hope he wins the lawsute and drains that fund a cool 800k or so . he will prob win if cases,around the countery are any indacation

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    Quote Originally Posted by durphee View Post
    Lol.....I’m pretty sure there was a plenty of weed floating around for many, many snowmobile season prior.
    you think ? it has been pretty cheep in the UK for a long long time . there have been some high quality volume growers up there for well north of 15yrs .
    we always stocked up when north of the bridge before CO pulled there head out of there ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    good i hope he wins the lawsute and drains that fund a cool 800k or so . he will prob win if cases,around the countery are any indacation



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    you think ? it has been pretty cheep in the UK for a long long time . there have been some high quality volume growers up there for well north of 15yrs .
    we always stocked up when north of the bridge before CO pulled there head out of there ***
    Potheads + lawsuits....HUH?....whats in this new pot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwaterHoosier View Post
    Where is everyone getting there tweed now, if it isn't available to the public yet?
    exactly..its so stupid

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    i will say this tho..had to sneak across canada forever fishing scared as . . . . but now i have to sneak the excess back(cuz legal and buyable)..geezuz..cant win

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtrack View Post
    Even our main employees are drug tested here on the Farm. If its a positive they are gone. So let em smoke and look for a nice minimum wage job.

    We just had a City worker fired for using CDB Oil, "so he claims" by by Pension.
    I fire the hungover drunks and leave the tokers alone. You don't see a toker getting crabby or shaking towards end of shift cause they need to smoke. Just my 2 cents.

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    No mater what States do it is still illegal in the USA. If you have a Job that requires a CDL that's federal and if you test positive, you are gone. As for Wisconsin our Governor may want
    to legalize it but he will not get far with the Assembly and Senate. The last thing I want is some doper working for me unless he works very hard and cheap. Only our upper level Employees are tested.

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    I hear what your saying. I have been an employer for 29 years. Selling fireworks doesn't require upper level management. LOL Yet, you say you do not want a doper on the road, but a drinker is okay?

    Based on these findings, the researchers believe that drinking alcohol is likely to be much more harmful to brain health than using marijuana.

    Whether or not this quote is factual or not. It's up for discussion. And that's why I am not so black and white on my opinions. I don't think in my lifetime will there be research data to provide which is right or wrong about marijuana use.

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    And dont have any on you while on a Federal Navigable Waterway, like where you can skip across the ice from Houghtons park to trail 17 in Hancock. Any amount can get you up to a year in a Federal Penitentiary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtrack View Post
    No mater what States do it is still illegal in the USA. If you have a Job that requires a CDL that's federal and if you test positive, you are gone. As for Wisconsin our Governor may want
    to legalize it but he will not get far with the Assembly and Senate. The last thing I want is some doper working for me unless he works very hard and cheap. Only our upper level Employees are tested.
    Lol. You working with "dopers" right now and you don't even know it.
    Lake Effect Snow, my three favorite words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandylake View Post
    And dont have any on you while on a Federal Navigable Waterway, like where you can skip across the ice from Houghtons park to trail 17 in Hancock. Any amount can get you up to a year in a Federal Penitentiary.
    Good point.
    I went to Mesa Verde N.P. and entered on the CO side in which many travel blogs we studied said the same thing; Federal land no 420.
    Fine with me.

    Another interesting point, I was pulled over by a Park Ranger with radar doing like 50 over (it's 45 MPH and you can see straight for 10 miles, my bad though). I received a speeding ticket but was told to just pay it (like $240) and the Fed tracking system does not report it to the State of WI. This was about 4 years ago and never heard a word from WI or insurance company.

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    The funny thing about the testing is it does not indicate if you are actually "under the influence" but rather if you have consumed marijuana within the last 3-4 weeks. Until there is a test (that is cost effective) that can determine if you are actually impaired it is useless for the reason it is being done, unless the reason is to determine if you used it on a Friday night 2 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1fujifilm View Post
    Good point.
    I went to Mesa Verde N.P. and entered on the CO side in which many travel blogs we studied said the same thing; Federal land no 420.
    Fine with me.

    Another interesting point, I was pulled over by a Park Ranger with radar doing like 50 over (it's 45 MPH and you can see straight for 10 miles, my bad though). I received a speeding ticket but was told to just pay it (like $240) and the Fed tracking system does not report it to the State of WI. This was about 4 years ago and never heard a word from WI or insurance company.

    Bear
    I think you just tipped off the State and insurance company lol.

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    I wonder who prefers a guy like me smoking a joint etc the night before getting a good nights sleep or a drinker on a sled the next morning still with a BAC of .05? Which is legal. Duly Noted. Same goes for hiring process. Yeah, whatever about the Federal Law. You'll Soon be on an island looking at shore.
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    He doesn't smoke anymore cause of lung issues. However, edibles etc are available to him. OH wait once he hits chemo THC pills for appetite relief.- Bottom line those who are cut and dry, ignorant to the inevitable will run with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snobuilder View Post
    Potheads + lawsuits....HUH?....whats in this new pot?
    you show me 10 lawyers I will show you 8 pot smokers

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtrack View Post
    No mater what States do it is still illegal in the USA. If you have a Job that requires a CDL that's federal and if you test positive, you are gone. As for Wisconsin our Governor may want
    to legalize it but he will not get far with the Assembly and Senate. The last thing I want is some doper working for me unless he works very hard and cheap. Only our upper level Employees are tested.
    lmfao some doper . are you gor real ? you obviosly live on some sort of bubble. you go to any of the state's who don't have there head in there are you are just as likely to be standing next to a guy in a suit and tie as a guy in his factory uniform .
    hard to believe in 2019 reffer madness ignorance is alive and well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylar View Post
    Lol. You working with "dopers" right now and you don't even know it.
    And by your comment I see you think it is a good thing and a step in the right direction to better out societal destiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    lmfao some doper . are you gor real ? you obviosly live on some sort of bubble. you go to any of the state's who don't have there head in there are you are just as likely to be standing next to a guy in a suit and tie as a guy in his factory uniform .
    hard to believe in 2019 reffer madness ignorance is alive and well
    so if there is zero affect? then why spend money to absorb it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    you show me 10 lawyers I will show you 8 pot smokers
    pothead speculation.....precious.
    whats yur point?
    wheres the peace, love, dope revolution at? gone to the self absorbed has it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandylake View Post
    And dont have any on you while on a Federal Navigable Waterway, like where you can skip across the ice from Houghtons park to trail 17 in Hancock. Any amount can get you up to a year in a Federal Penitentiary.
    lmfao a year
    I know you can't really believe that. pot is nothing but a tix even in states it is lligal or Fed land even a airport for under a oz . $250 max you can pay over the phone or on line or send a check. it is not 1970s nevada out there any more has not been in a long time

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    $250 penalty for bein a pothead.....LOL

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    A year in the Fed pen. 😂😂😂 Sure.

    Iíve flown with it from CA, CO, NV, FL, NJ and CT back and forth to IL. I donít even try and hide it. Twice Iíve had TSA ďinspectĒ my baggage and left the inspection notice on top of my little jar of it. No one cares about weed anymore other than Boomers and far right wingers.

    Ever get so high you started a fight with someone? Probably not, but I bet there are a hundred stories of doing it drunk. You donít hear of people getting nigh and abusing their spouses but you know there are drunks that do. Every hear of an AA for marijuana? Yeah, me neither.

    Outside of overeating I canít find a negative with it. Not an everyday user by any means but on a sled trip at the end of the night when Iím back at the cabin with my buddies, some of the best laughs of my life. Wake up feeling like a million bucks and ready to ride it out. I always bring what I need with me but it wonít be long before you can buy it at the corner store. And thatís not a bad thing IMO.

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    Hey Boomers ^^^^ is the only reason why it is now legal to walk into a store and buy it in MI. It does have an effect. That's why its so popular. I pity the fool that tries to cross between Canada where it is legal also and get pulled into Customs.

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    And the discussion about which is worse drunks or pot will go on forever in time. They both distort ones well being, albeit one more than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chords View Post
    Hey Boomers ^^^^ is the only reason why it is now legal to walk into a store and buy it in MI. It does have an effect. That's why its so popular. I pity the fool that tries to cross between Canada where it is legal also and get pulled into Customs.

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    And the discussion about which is worse drunks or pot will go on forever in time. They both distort ones well being, albeit one more than the other.

    I was talking to a few friends who had gone on a snowmobile trip to Canada and one of the persons sled blew up so he left early and asked to borrow the truck and trailer to haul his sled back and he had an ounce of weed on him through the border not only did he go through **** but it cost him $43,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    lmfao a year
    I know you can't really believe that. pot is nothing but a tix even in states it is lligal or Fed land even a airport for under a oz . $250 max you can pay over the phone or on line or send a check. it is not 1970s nevada out there any more has not been in a long time
    It is a year maximum for a first time offense any amount.

    Third time offense is 3 years and a felony for any amount

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    20 miles north of me is the Pembina point of entry in to Manitoba. It is a 'training port'. This is where they send a lot of newbies to show them the ropes. If they find some weed their theory is that maybe they will find something else. Then they run your car or truck in to the 'shed'. Then they take it all apart. Seats out and maybe cut to see what is inside. Carpet out to check for hiding places. Headliner out. Maybe a fender. Sometimes the gas tank. They can do anything they want. And whether they find anything or not they are under no obligation to put it all back together. So go ahead - make their day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grub View Post
    20 miles north of me is the Pembina point of entry in to Manitoba. It is a 'training port'. This is where they send a lot of newbies to show them the ropes. If they find some weed their theory is that maybe they will find something else. Then they run your car or truck in to the 'shed'. Then they take it all apart. Seats out and maybe cut to see what is inside. Carpet out to check for hiding places. Headliner out. Maybe a fender. Sometimes the gas tank. They can do anything they want. And whether they find anything or not they are under no obligation to put it all back together. So go ahead - make their day.
    At the International Bridge in Sault ste Marie. When they tear cars/trucks apart, they DO NOT put it back together. They won't even help load parts onto tow truck that comes pick up your vehicle.

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    Back to the original post. I, you if following the law can legally enjoy marijuana. Thank gosh JD website wasn't alive during prohibition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshooterz View Post

    Ever get so high you started a fight with someone? Probably not, but I bet there are a hundred stories of doing it drunk. You don’t hear of people getting nigh and abusing their spouses but you know there are drunks that do. Every hear of an AA for marijuana? Yeah, me neither.
    AA for marijuana is known as NA, short for Narcotics Anonymous. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program....... -Mezz

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    No interest either way and can’t with my job. But if I bought some wonder if I could still carry with a Ccw. Would make me feel like El Chapo jk

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    lock 4 guys in a room with a bottle of whiskey, and they will start a fight...

    lock 4 guys in a room with a joint, and they will start a band...

    LOL

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    Whoa! This thread has loooong legs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIGHLANDER View Post
    lock 4 guys in a room with a bottle of whiskey, and they will start a fight...

    lock 4 guys in a room with a joint, and they will start a band...

    LOL
    I don't do the stuff, never have, and I can say for sure never will. I burned a lot of cigs, and cigars, but no weed. I know a lot of people who have done weed for many, many years with no trouble what so ever. However, I agree with HIGHLANDER all the way! I have seen those situations. Whiskey, I love it, but it has got me in trouble many times in my younger days for sure!

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    How ironic that John Sinclair (1971 sentenced to 10 yrs for 2 joints / John Lennon held a rally...look him up) was the first or one of the first buyers in Ann Arbor last Sunday. When asked if this was a great day the 78 yr old replied " It would be a greater day if they gave me my weed back they took "

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeperguy View Post
    At the International Bridge in Sault ste Marie. When they tear cars/trucks apart, they DO NOT put it back together. They won't even help load parts onto tow truck that comes pick up your vehicle.
    I stopped going to Canada because of this. The last three times crossing the border on fishing trips they have pulled our rig aside and taken everything apart and laid it all spread out on the pavement for us to reassemble. They never tore up anything but the whole process takes a very long time and is just annoying.

    Those darn Tundras pulling a 1890 Warrior looks suspicious to me too.


    And they really do rifle through EVERYTHING and just lay it all out for you to put back.

    So I took my vacations elsewhere. No big deal.

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    This has to be one of the more interesting threads that this site has produced lately, the only thing I could think of is when people are smoking weed is their imagination does wander, that’s why musicians like it so much, I think if I was smoking the wacky weed, I could think of my imagination wondering also. like if I was high and I pulled up behind an Amazon truck and looked at that silly logo, I would think “wouldn’t it be neat if there was two elongated lobes on the lower left side of that logo”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylar View Post
    Lol. You working with "dopers" right now and you don't even know it.
    Oh...I know it. They're generally not the most productive bunch and easy to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dothedoo View Post
    Oh...I know it. They're generally not the most productive bunch and easy to spot.
    No, that would be the drunks with hangovers.
    Lake Effect Snow, my three favorite words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dothedoo View Post
    Oh...I know it. They're generally not the most productive bunch and easy to spot.
    Washington, D.C. Marijuana Consumption Demographics

    • 55.3% of Washington, D.C. consumers are considered “white-collar”
    • 32.3% are considered professional
    • 30.5% own their own business
    • 30% are more likely to be employed full-time
    • 7.5% are considered “blue-collar”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireworks View Post
    Washington, D.C. Marijuana Consumption Demographics


    • 55.3% of Washington, D.C. consumers are considered “white-collar”
    • 32.3% are considered professional
    • 30.5% own their own business
    • 30% are more likely to be employed full-time
    • 7.5% are considered “blue-collar”
    My opinion is based on the observation of white collar dopers. lol

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    Got tested at work last month, and l asked the H R guy what was going to happen after recreational marijuana becomes legal. He told me he wouldn`t test anyone til November. He was gonna wait and see what happens to other businesses when they fire someone for using a legal drug, and what happens in court. Time will tell.

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    and if you buy or own guns, or plan to!
    this is right off the ATF E-Form 4473 form


    #11,E
    Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized ordecriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

    so all you gun owners that smoke, ??
    you can be denied the right to buy guns and well, if you LIE
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    What about when marijuana was illegal everywhere and the same laws were enact. Did anyone discuss it? The same people have been smoking. Same people drank during prohibition. Are you a product of being a government tool?

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    I just find it funny how things become full circle in todays day and age, things that were once frowned upon, taboo or illegal are no longer and now you are the one with the problem if you don't approve of it, whatever that may be. People are using it legal or not, people you would be surprised to know, there are people who can function on it and those that cant and there are those that abuse it and those that don't. Doesn't make those that don't approve of it any more right or wrong than those that do. marijuana was once known as the gateway drug, now that the government says its ok and getting their tax money from it I suppose its just like smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer... no problem anymore. I have never tried it nor will I ever, absolutely no interest in it, legal or not I still wont approve of it, nor will I tolerate it in any shape or form in my shop or by any of my employees. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here, will the amount of addicts increase or will it go the other way, will it because it is legal to obtain now become an addiction to some that will be recognized as an illness and be a form of disability keeping people from working? it is what it is, and you wonder what will be next that was again once frowned upon, taboo or illegal that we will just have to look the other way at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoric1 View Post
    ... and you wonder what will be next that was again once frowned upon, taboo or illegal that we will just have to look the other way at.
    We might as well go off the deep-end and make prostitution legal. Could you just image the amount of tax money the government will get from that! After all, it is probably a lot safer than tobacco, pot, or alcohol combined if we regulate it properly. The government will have some many dollars they won't know what to do with the money. It will bring new meaning to "Screw the Government." And for the rhetorical question ... Who are you hurting by doing it anyway? Right? Isn't that the new standard to judge something by?
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    Boy I stayed away from this thread as long as possible but it has gone so sideways I had to post. It's a plant on God's green earth. It has many documented clinical purposes. I don't smoke (anymore) but had my share years ago. I could go on for hours. The sky is not falling. Cbd and thc can do a lot of good. It's proven. Show me any good alcohol (which I like to drink as anyone who knows me can agree) can do? Or prostitutes for crying out loud?? Come on guys this crap has gone off the tracks. Those that partake are gonna partake. Puff puff give!!

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    Not a fan of pot or loser potheads, but the legalization of such is a net positive in that it removes a lot of power from law enforcement to hassle folks on petty nonsense for S&G’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICT Sledder View Post
    Not a fan of pot or loser potheads, but the legalization of such is a net positive in that it removes a lot of power from law enforcement to hassle folks on petty nonsense for S&G’s.
    what if the pothead isn't a loser and very is successful? would you be a fan??? lol

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    When it does become legalized, there will be so many people rolling big fat juicy doobies,
    living on a steady diet of government cheese in a van down by the river LOL

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    Interestingly not everyone that uses marijuana is some loser, probably not even close to the majority.

    So my brother in law owned and sold a business in San Francisco, made a crap ton of money. He now spends his time as a private consultant and works as a hired gun, he also has authored several software books and "how to" guides on computers and their software. He lives in the hills of Oakland and his neighbors are all VP's of this and that or software developers, investors or a part of some large business corporation or wealthy private business. They aren't like the crazy wealthy but they are all well off and successful.
    ....and all of them, and I mean all of them, torch up more commonly than cracking a Bud Lite during the football game.

    The laws state by state and federally for marijuana are what they are and should be followed. I do NOT agree with them and I do not partake nor would I if it became even federally legal.
    It would only become a problem to me if it somehow affected me in some negative way and its unlikely that it would. My very good friend, locally, has smoked since I met him 26 years ago.
    At the same time this bestie of mine got extremely p.o.ed a few years ago because some of his new hires were going on break and coming back baked. He warned them, they didn't comply and he let them go.

    There is a time and place for everything.

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    I'm going to throw this out there and take it how ever anyone wishes, I mean NO disrespect, its just a thought

    but WHY do so many people today seem to need a drug to function or be happy, or need a temporary escape from there lives and realities?
    I mean, there is a HUGE portion of the population on ILLEGAL drugs, and and please take with a grain of salt
    but for yrs, countless places POT was illegal, so, that meant, so many folks were willing to break the law, and risk the fines and down sides of getting caught!
    drug use/abuse is a every growing problem and having huge costs in more ways than just funds! and effecting many that DON"T par take in this habit!

    I mean, honestly, does anyone think the population is getting smarter , being more productive, having MORE motivation NOW< as to say some yrs Back???
    I am constantly hearing folks complain about, un able to hire good workers anymore, that have SELF MOTIVATION or drive
    I hear countless folks complain about people having entitlement complexes! or, just LAZY MAYBE spoiled people!
    there will always be exceptions to the rule
    there are many folks that can function on many things and be productive
    but MY question again, is, WHY do so many folks feel a need to use drugs to live?
    be them legal or other wise(and don';t mean prescription drugs prescribed to treat health issue's)

    as folks can say POT is only??
    like Booze or??
    But does anyone think more folks on drugs of ANY kind is going to make people more productive and better in a whole? or the world better, , all the mroe so again with so many seeming to think things are slipping teh wrong way as is?

    doesn't anyone seem to think, there should be more in the ways of finding out WHY so many need a drug to live, or feel better about there lives or moods or??

    I don;t use pot never have, no plans to if legal every where!
    I deal with my problems with need ot a temp fix and rather spend my money on a solution to problem rather than something that helps me forget it for a short while?

    but this is me, again,were all different
    I just don;'t get why so many cannot seem to just live without need of drugs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbb View Post
    I'm going to throw this out there and take it how ever anyone wishes, I mean NO disrespect, its just a thought

    but WHY do so many people today seem to need a drug to function or be happy, or need a temporary escape from there lives and realities?
    I mean, there is a HUGE portion of the population on ILLEGAL drugs, and and please take with a grain of salt
    but for yrs, countless places POT was illegal, so, that meant, so many folks were willing to break the law, and risk the fines and down sides of getting caught!
    drug use/abuse is a every growing problem and having huge costs in more ways than just funds! and effecting many that DON"T par take in this habit!

    I mean, honestly, does anyone think the population is getting smarter , being more productive, having MORE motivation NOW< as to say some yrs Back???
    I am constantly hearing folks complain about, un able to hire good workers anymore, that have SELF MOTIVATION or drive
    I hear countless folks complain about people having entitlement complexes! or, just LAZY MAYBE spoiled people!
    there will always be exceptions to the rule
    there are many folks that can function on many things and be productive
    but MY question again, is, WHY do so many folks feel a need to use drugs to live?
    be them legal or other wise(and don';t mean prescription drugs prescribed to treat health issue's)

    as folks can say POT is only??
    like Booze or??
    But does anyone think more folks on drugs of ANY kind is going to make people more productive and better in a whole? or the world better, , all the mroe so again with so many seeming to think things are slipping teh wrong way as is?

    doesn't anyone seem to think, there should be more in the ways of finding out WHY so many need a drug to live, or feel better about there lives or moods or??

    I don;t use pot never have, no plans to if legal every where!
    I deal with my problems with need ot a temp fix and rather spend my money on a solution to problem rather than something that helps me forget it for a short while?

    but this is me, again,were all different
    I just don;'t get why so many cannot seem to just live without need of drugs??
    There are people that can handle it and there are people that can't. It is the same as booze. It is the same as cocaine. Until you get to heroin. Nobody can handle that. The big thing is that people who think they are handling whatever they are doing think they are superior. Then everything goes south.

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    Focus all you non pot smokers. Drugs, booze and pot are 3 different topics..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chords View Post
    Focus all you non pot smokers. Drugs, booze and pot are 3 different topics..
    Chicken Pot Pie ... 3 different topics also

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    Quote Originally Posted by grub View Post
    There are people that can handle it and there are people that can't. It is the same as booze. It is the same as cocaine. Until you get to heroin. Nobody can handle that.
    Keith Richards?

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    QUOTE=1fujifilm;484716]Keith Richards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chords View Post
    Focus all you non pot smokers. Drugs, booze and pot are 3 different topics..
    not really, all 3 have been illegal at one time or another, and still SO many folks took the risks to get it when illegal,?

    so, my question again, is WHY
    maybe this is a question that more should be looked into, as banning or making them legal IMO< doesn;t seem to solve any of the problems that can develop from those that cannot use/handle it and function well using/on it!
    like it or not, ALL three have been known to destroy lives both directly and indirectly!

    and if its a simple as a percentage game, of say"X" percent of folks CAN handle it and CANNOT
    the more then that use it, the more then that will have issue's with it?
    its simple math! not a strike against anyone that par takes in any of the three, !

    so, maybe the bigger picture again is, WHY do so many people feel a need to use a substance that alters there thinking or feelings/ temp escape from there problems or reality?
    as I doubt honestly any of the 3 fixes many peoples problems, and most , maybe cause more damage than good
    considering 70% of the population in the USA< is in debt, spending money in things like these 3 isn';t very logical or helping there debt IMO!
    again, this is MY Opinion, not a bash or a hate here!
    more a question, as I do NOT take or use drugs /pot!
    heck don't even drink much anymore LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimcake View Post
    QUOTE=1fujifilm;484716]Keith Richards?

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    Funny Sh$t there

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    [QUOTE
    more a question, as I do NOT take or use drugs /pot!
    heck don't even drink much anymore LOL[/QUOTE]

    But you do drink. And why is that? Life is perfect. Reality is great.
    So my question is why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireworks View Post
    [QUOTE
    more a question, as I do NOT take or use drugs /pot!
    heck don't even drink much anymore LOL
    But you do drink. And why is that? Life is perfect. Reality is great.
    So my question is why?[/QUOTE]

    well I can answer this question really easy, doubt sits the same for most
    But its been several yrs since I had any alcohol
    and last time I had one, it was due to someone asked me, and didn't care one way or the other, so I had 1 beer!

    I didn;t drink it due to I really wanted it, felt I needed it, cared for the taste, nor wanted any of its possible effects!
    so, I don;t see the point other than its a legal option?

    that still doesn't clear anything up in my question IMO
    that's like a universal answer to anything

    I do believe I am NOT alone in many folks think society is slipping in a wrong direction these days
    there seems to be a very serious issue with addictions, be it alcohol, drugs/POT, since someone didn;t like it being labeled with drugs! LOL
    like it or not, some folks do get addicted to ANYTHING
    if people are having so many issue's in life they need an escape and turn to things like the 3 listed
    maybe there should be more focus on finding out WHY< over just making more things legal!
    and possibly making for more folks addicted, or getting into other things when these legal things don;t work for those that ??
    I mean come on, were in a world now where folks don;t know what bathroom to use? LOL
    how in the world is allowing for more substances that can alter one's thinking/or mood, or?? going to help?
    that is my view again, and I fully get no one has to like or agree with it
    but I still don;t get why so many need to try and alter there state of mind with any of the 3, if that is why they are using them!
    and again, based on how many have issue's with them, it sure seems to be a LOT.
    so its NOT just a few as many seem to want it to be!

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    windsor.jpg Just sayin. Thinking I will pour one tonight. Only good thing about Canada.... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbb View Post
    But you do drink. And why is that? Life is perfect. Reality is great.
    So my question is why?
    well I can answer this question really easy, doubt sits the same for most
    But its been several yrs since I had any alcohol
    and last time I had one, it was due to someone asked me, and didn't care one way or the other, so I had 1 beer!

    I didn;t drink it due to I really wanted it, felt I needed it, cared for the taste, nor wanted any of its possible effects!
    so, I don;t see the point other than its a legal option?

    that still doesn't clear anything up in my question IMO
    that's like a universal answer to anything

    I do believe I am NOT alone in many folks think society is slipping in a wrong direction these days
    there seems to be a very serious issue with addictions, be it alcohol, drugs/POT, since someone didn;t like it being labeled with drugs! LOL
    like it or not, some folks do get addicted to ANYTHING
    if people are having so many issue's in life they need an escape and turn to things like the 3 listed
    maybe there should be more focus on finding out WHY< over just making more things legal!
    and possibly making for more folks addicted, or getting into other things when these legal things don;t work for those that ??
    I mean come on, were in a world now where folks don;t know what bathroom to use? LOL
    how in the world is allowing for more substances that can alter one's thinking/or mood, or?? going to help?
    that is my view again, and I fully get no one has to like or agree with it
    but I still don;t get why so many need to try and alter there state of mind with any of the 3, if that is why they are using them!
    and again, based on how many have issue's with them, it sure seems to be a LOT.
    so its NOT just a few as many seem to want it to be![/QUOTE]

    One thing I learned with this crowd, you are not going to get an answer. So, I don't see a need for you to defend your position.

    I am asking the same questions, how does decriminalizing one more debauchery of the human condition advance humanity?

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    Some people get drunk or high for an escape some just go to church every Sunday.How ever u escape reality is your own business Both are Gods Creations just Partake wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saber1 View Post
    Some people get drunk or high for an escape some just go to church every Sunday.How ever u escape reality is your own business Both are Gods Creations just Partake wisely.

    See mrbb, the odds are no one will present an intelligent answer to your question. No reason to continue the discussion. Keep this in mind if you decide to continue ... Mark Twain once said “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimcake View Post
    windsor.jpg Just sayin. Thinking I will pour one tonight. Only good thing about Canada.... LOL
    slimcake, I grow corn, and I'm sticking with Jim for whiskey! However, I occasionally have a drink with Henry also. This tread definitely has legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old abe View Post
    slimcake, I grow corn, and I'm sticking with Jim for whiskey! However, I occasionally have a drink with Henry also. This tread definitely has legs.
    I am actually a vodka guy. Love me some blue ox or dripping springs. I would like to know how much corn goes into a bottle. But hey I'm doing my part right?? Support the farmers. Oh wait it takes farmers for Mary Jane to doesn't it.... Oh boy. Now I don't know what to think. White Russian anyone?? Oh no now I brought that into the conversation... Good thing there is snowflakes in the forecast!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimcake View Post
    I am actually a vodka guy. Love me some blue ox or dripping springs. I would like to know how much corn goes into a bottle. But hey I'm doing my part right?? Support the farmers. Oh wait it takes farmers for Mary Jane to doesn't it.... Oh boy. Now I don't know what to think.
    True.
    Read an article on how bad Dairy Farmers have it and how it is likely to get worse with bankrupt Dean foods joining some organization that will drive private farmer dairy farmers milk prices down.

    Anyway, guy being interviewed converted from Dairy to growing hemp and uses his milking barn for hanging/drying the product in N.Y. State.
    As soon as MJ is legalized he will move to that too.

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